Post by Eorl @ 01:20pm 11/06/13 | 19 Comments
Sadly the news isn't all that good, as a trailer demonstrating the simple "DRM" required for used games on PlayStation 4 has revealed that PlayStation Plus membership will be required for online multiplayer action. Luckily however those looking to simply play the single-player of titles will gladly be able to, though from the looks of the next-gen titles online will be offering a number of incentives.
Update: Australian pricing has since been officially confirmed as RRP AUD$549
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Posted 01:40pm 11/6/13
edit: dat broken link
Posted 01:37pm 11/6/13
I was SO goddamn excited and then they go and pull the same s*** that made me sell my 360.
"Oh hey, you want to play MP on a game you already paid $60 for, using an internet connection you already pay $70/month for? Why not pay another $x/month just because we can!"
*sigh* looks like it'll still be 100% PC gaming for me.
Posted 01:37pm 11/6/13
Posted 01:40pm 11/6/13
You can tell that sony are on to a winning forumal with this as microsoft are doing the same thing. If anything there online services are now matching each other. Which is great for consumers (ignoring MS s***** DRM policy)
Posted 01:45pm 11/6/13
I won't pay $20 for what will likely only be a few days use of MP. It's a f*****g rort.
Posted 02:52pm 11/6/13
I will pay it because it carries over from the ps3 ps plus and hopefully the ps4 is region free like the ps3.
That and it's way cheaper than Xbox live. I believe people take things at face value too much, plus used games are helpful too 550$ is way cheaper than what I thought it was gonna release at. Well done Sony.
Posted 03:11pm 11/6/13
I can see how in this particular case the value isn't there, but lets be honest if past history has taught us anything, this exclusive console game you want to play on MP won't have dedicated servers, it will have terrible match making and it won't be worth your time let alone the subscription it costs for PS+... so by not paying for PS+ you get the pleasure of not being exposed to potentially wasting your time on something that isn't worth your time.
But in all seriousness I am with you 100% on this, I don't play console games multiplayer and if I do its only to realise the above statement is true... Again I pay for my PS+ sub for the added (existing) benefits and as long as the price doesn't go up to much i will continue to do so...
My Xbox live sub is the biggest waste of money, my son plays halo online and its the only reason I bought it.. he plays maybe once a month.. its really not worth it, I get nothing extra from it. In fact the last few years the xbox imo has been such an unappealing system that i've hardly touched it, my 10yr old uses it more than anyone and even then he's more engaged in the 3DS.. the Xbox demographic does not live in my house.
But back to the PS3, if you won't get value out of the PS+ benefits like free games then you probably won't get value from the PS3 at all, lashing out $500+ for the console and $70 bucks an exclusive game probably isn't value to you.. a pc gamer.
Posted 03:47pm 11/6/13
Is that winter holiday or summer holiday (winter there)
or september holidays because that's the biggest school holidays?
edit: wait whats this monthly fee people are talking about? theres a dealbreaker, lol . Newsflash I don't even pay for a mobile phone subscription, I've never had cable tv, never bought an online game with ongoing fees, hell I don't even purcahse my own petrol - so you can stick that monthly fee up your f*****g a******* along with the playstation itself.
This would have been my first playstation. I've never even seen one in real life before. I've seen a first gen Xbox, and before that a Megadrive (but never actually played it).
Now it will be my never playstation.
Kids at school teased me because I asked what "dual shock" meant. LOL DUH they said DUAL means TWO idiot
I now know it referred to the joy pad which contained some kind of vibrator.
Posted 04:16pm 11/6/13
As for "holiday season", I'm pretty sure that's sept / oct / nov / dec.
Probably more the nov / dec time. Basically, around christmas.
Posted 04:27pm 11/6/13
Then get less computer-literate neighbours. Ones with s****** WEP keys.
Posted 04:36pm 11/6/13
Posted 07:20pm 11/6/13
It's like having to drop $5 on the MP unlocking DLC for a game you just paid full price on, except it expires every month and you have to re-buy the DLC...
Sure, you get "free games" but like I said, I'll have already bought any game I care about on PC anyway. All the sub is doing is c***-blocking me when I want to get on my dusty console and play for an hour every other week.
Posted 08:01pm 11/6/13
Most games i've never bothered playing multiplayer on my ps3 any games i want to play proper multiplayer on i play on my pc. That said the game i've played the most you needed to be online to get the most fun out of it
You seem angry maybe you should just stick to pc
Posted 08:13pm 11/6/13
not for single player, only multiplayer.
Posted 08:18pm 11/6/13
*Turns back.
Posted 09:32pm 11/6/13
This is not necessarily a deal breaker for me but it does take the shine off what was shaping up to be a good console release. Now the price, its disappointing. Right now $399 USD = $426.60 AUD as of typing this. Is Sony going to be taking a loss on the sale of the console? If we assume they do make money off it and can sell it for $399 USD at a profit, then $426 here in Aus should be good enough. If we are to account for the fluctuation of the aussie dollar, $450 AUD would be the best price all things considered.
$549 is a bit much unless it comes with a game or other things.
Posted 09:41pm 11/6/13
Personally I like that Sony is going this route, because it hopefully means they'll be building their version of the infrastructure that makes multiplayer on Live so much better, with the cross game voice chat (which I think they already said they'll have) and all the built in inviting and matchmaking type stuff and all the rich presence stuff. Those are the things that make Live a superior platform for multiplayer imo, so if the monthly fee means Sony are adopting that stuff for PSN (which from all indications, it sounds like they are), then I'm all for it. It makes more sense from the point of view of catering to developers as well, instead of forcing each developer to roll their own multiplayer and matchmaking s***, just have it all built into the core system and developers just leverage it.
Posted 08:32am 12/6/13
Don't they have skype integration? They can do SO much without needing to get their own infrastructure in place.
If you're desperate for cross-game chat, make THAT a PS+ feature.
But rolling free MP into a sub that YOU MUST PAY to get the most out of your games is a "lets grab the money because we can".
As for the whole "let's cater to developers" idea, while nice for the game publishers, is ALSO pointless for the consumer. I don't care if it saves gave dev's a month of having to slot in their own Matchmakinging code module (which they likely have if they've done games on that engine before), it f**** over the common gamer.
Posted 09:20am 12/6/13
Whether charging a monthly fee for it is a bad thing or not, I dunno, thats a judgement call really. Its hardly a new business model, subscription gaming has been around for a long time now and Sony would have been crazy to ignore the success of XBox Live's model. I guess I'm just used to it now so it doesn't bother me, and I don't mind paying a couple of bucks a month for a good service.