Pfft, can't comment on the video, can't send a message to the channel. They're living in a closed world constantly reinforcing their sexist views. I cannot respect anyone who refuses criticism, although I will admit that they would get a lot that is nonconstructive.

Oh noes, teh bad comments, they offend me. So? Part of sharing your opinion on the internet means others get to share theirs (no matter what it is). One sided argument much?

I got about as far into the video as when she came on screen wearing those f*****g huge earrings.What a bad start for a person wanting to be taken seriously on the topic of feminism ...(unless she's being satirical in some way, not that i'd know not being able to get through the video)

Imagine if you got on TV and claimed that bogans are stereotyped too much in media, while you're in a singlet holding a beer and sporting a massive rat-tail ...

There's no denying that our pop culture has inherited a biased treatment of female characters.

force the left wing nutcases to legislate games no one wants to play.

let's do something about it so that we can tell future generations that we really made a difference.

you can't complain about women with accentuated hips and boobs when the men are running around with impossibly bulging muscles and broad shoulders.

Pro tip: massive earrings help to gain attention, stereotype a gender, and cause a conflict of integrity during a discussion about not wanting to be treated like an object.

On the Avengers example, women generally find the chest, biceps and front super attractive parts of a males body, no? Whereas men find the breasts and arse super attractive, so the original Avengers poster is sort of serving both audiences.

Why would feminine stereotypical clothes be objectifying

You just answered your own question.

I think the aspect of objectifying women is actually far more prevalent in Hollywood in general, then video games. If anything video games is probably doing a bit better now with recent examples.

People can still share their opinions though. The comments section of the video is just one place on the entire goddamn internet (it's only one place on Youtube too, expect videos criticising this video in the next few days). There's a difference between not giving someone a soapbox to stand on and censorship.

Meanwhile we're all currently playing as an insanely strong female character that doesn't seem to ever die (unless confronted with twigs).Why does this person even exist?/threadP.S. Video has such a strong tone of smug it might meet with George Clooney's and create a perfect storm of self satisfaction.

Really large hoop earrings? They're not drawing much visual or sexual attention. Also, why is the standard default to disagreeing with a woman always result in commenting on her appearance and not her argument>

in before why is there no female characters in battlefield 3

there is no mention of marketing being the reason for the sexist stereotypes in games or whatever. but surely that is the reason... the game developers knew their audience would be largely young males & tailored the games to suit.

I think the aspect of objectifying women is actually far more prevalent in Hollywood in general, then video games. If anything video games is probably doing a bit better now with recent examples.

She's outright wrong with Princess Peach, she's a playable character in SMB2 and then never again? Lets ignore the Mario Kart Series, Mario Golf Series, Super Smash Bros Melee and Brawl, Super Paper Mario, etc, etc...

V chests

Both genders are being treated like objects - Every dude in a video game is a massive grunt with huge shoulders and V chests, every chick is heavily armored bikini model. They're both pathetic stereotypes.

Nerf, I'm talking about the pictures you posted. Posing the guys with their butts waving everywhere is overlooking the fact that the exaggerated bodies of the male protagonists are just as damaging to young male minds as the female equivalent, but it's a fact that goes largely ignored by society.

Speaking of Princess Peach:http://imgur.com/DcAFPUE

I don't know whether I'd agree that it necessarily encourages harmful thinking

the fact the idiots even gave her money to do this s*** is a joke. were you one nerf ?

sympathetic to your views nerf you diesel powered lesbian sympathiser.

I'm not even sure I understood what the hell cainer even said in his second last post (one with the video).

The contextual situations of the video game examples she reference almost all relate to physical strength.

I do sort of find it a waste of crowd funding to go out and get a kickstarter to dress like a lumberjack (is her dressing like a man deliberate?)

Those videos clearly don't take 100K to make. What a rip off.

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And loop cuckoo cults across the Earth’s radius
The brightest of the bright will be coupled with the shadiest
Workaholics condemned to pens with the laziest
The passive and the ropable, no hoper and the
Notable, forgettable and uh, the quotable
The centre of attention to barely audible
Not even any privileges for the laudable
What Ben Lee meant, with we’re all in this together
On the high road to hell we’re birds of a feather
Nothing can unite us like endeavours to the nether
Bureaucrats lobbying Lucifer with a letter
I swear that Satan will get sick of it quick
Leavin the evilest of evil even thinking to quit
To the tune of Kenny G playin saxophone licks
Thinking hell has really gone to ish

According to the people
The people that resemble
Disciples of the temple

We’re all going to hell
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Does the author reference?
Are the references from a credible source?

Her stated cost wasn't 100k, that's what she received.Looking through the list of backers, it seems that there were a lot of girls wanting this to get made.The huge amount is just showing that there's obviously a demand for it. People will put in way more than what a project necessarily needs - check out what the SMBC guy ended up on for a package of his comics, which are already available online for free.

relentless constantly-readjusting criticism tbh.

People who go apes*** over discussion of female tropes in games are unfortunately a constant presence.

Heh Door, sticking up for "normal people". I meant there are people repeatedly coming back to freshly attack it from every angle that they can muster, only because they were already set against it. People who go apes*** over discussion of female tropes in games are unfortunately a constant presence.

Why does Thunderf00t hate women so much? /sarcasm

Jake R 1 minute ago
Anita's views are actually enlightening to understanding Feminism. For millenia males did the dirty, dangerous jobs like hunting, warring, mining, lumbering, etc, while the women stayed home. The Western opinion is that the women safe at home in these circumstances were "oppressed". In bizzaro feminist logic this protection from war, injury, and death was "objectification". ...It's like they're trolling us. Trying to see how insane they can get before being checked.

whiteknight defending the honor of a diesel powered lesbian

Jake R 1 minute ago
Anita's views are actually enlightening to understanding Feminism. For millenia males did the dirty, dangerous jobs like hunting, warring, mining, lumbering, etc, while the women stayed home. The Western opinion is that the women safe at home in these circumstances were "oppressed". In bizzaro feminist logic this protection from war, injury, and death was "objectification". ...It's like they're trolling us. Trying to see how insane they can get before being checked.

cainer is living, drooling proof that things like this video are necessary.

I don't know if anybody's said that it should be immune, I mean I have a few criticisms of it, it's just that this topic brings out some major denialist d***wads, who toss and turn through every criticism that they can.

cainer is living, drooling proof that things like this video are necessary.

Denialists are people who deny demonstrable facts.

The trope of unevenly reducing just one gender to weak & helpless or sexual object in games is well evidenced.

even her examples didn't give evidence of sexual objectification.

The concept that the Damsel is weak is deeply flawed, if she was weak then saving her would be trivial and the game would be over. It's a mechanism used to create a sense of peril by showing how dangerous the adversary is, not how weak women are.

She's interpreted it to suit her agenda

She gives no evidence to back up the claim that it is having a negative impact in society.

The trope of unevenly reducing just one gender to weak & helpless or sexual object in games is well evidenced. She produced a number of examples in that video. Find a handful which are honestly comparable where a man is the helpless victim, showing up inexplicably wearing only boardshorts or bdsm gear or something when rescued.

and then there is the trope that men are single minded violent thugs that only know how to solve problems with violence. incapable of reason, sexual lust machines, all they know how to do is fight and f***.

and nerf, men are stronger its a simple fact.

If you think that this is a problem, then do something about it? Personally I can't think of many games that really fit that profile, maybe arcade fighers. Mario, Link, Starfox, and so on - the ones out rescuing the incapable females - are not shown this way.

no nerf, you can't just write in what you want me to write and say i wrote it.

firstly, i don't have a problem with it

its stooping the low politically correct platform of having a sook about everything to push an unpopular agenda by making everyone else feel bad about it.

battlefield 3 or dayz or sega rally or tetris. gun toting killing machines incapable of thought exist in 2 of them. a lunatic driver with no regard for damaging nature exists in one of them. and some a******* obsessed with abstract depictions of phalluses exists in the last.

and secondly who said the 2 had to exist in tandem. damsels in distress don't exist in battlefield 3 or dayz or sega rally or tetris. gun toting killing machines incapable of thought exist in 2 of them. a lunatic driver with no regard for damaging nature exists in one of them. and some a******* obsessed with abstract depictions of phalluses exists in the last.

No man would go take on the mob if his woman had been kidnapped, he'd call the police if he had a shred of sense.

I want to play that game, it sounds awesome. Super Police Complaint Maker Turbo Edition.

So why are the men able to defeat them? Why are the woman essentially never rescuing the men? Why do the woman simply cry for help as she pointed out? Why are the male protagonists always able to break themselves out of prison whenever they're captured in the same stories?

Just because she didn't give examples of women rescuing men must mean that they don't exist ever right? Lara Croft is a figment of our imagination, just like Buffy, Wonderwoman or Zena.

All of this is nonsense. The men in those stories defeat the bad guy because it is a story and any story requires the hero to overcome insurmountable tasks, male or female. Again, thinking that the Damsel is weak trivializes the task of defeating the villain. Not being able to defend yourself against someone portrayed as uncommonly strong is not a sign of weakness.

She gave one example of a woman simply crying out for help which was Princess Peach

All of this is largely irrelevant though since it focuses on the fictional construct and not the social impact

IMO the view that women who are attractive should only be judged upon that one element is passive aggressive misogyny.

people aren't refusing to acknowledge it. people are saying 'who cares' and 'this isn't a problem'.

its not a illuminati plot to objectify women.

Oddly you also deny that it exists, then immediately state that it exists but clarify that it isn't a proven problem.

And yet it only happens to the women, again and again. Find five games which are honestly similar, where a male is captured squealing for help, and is rescued in a porno outfit.

Saints Row 3

I don't deny at all that women may be portrayed in a poor light in games

I just don't think you can make the claim that it has a negative effect on society.

that DoA volley ball game which only has female characters so I think I can safely assume was made for women.

And yet it only happens to the women, again and again. Find five games which are honestly similar, where a male is captured squealing for help, and is rescued in a porno outfit.

Why is no one talking about how many men die in video games?

the idea that female characters are weak and inferior, not a specific event happening to them.

I'm unsure if you guys are genuinely this daft, are just being difficult because you don't like admitting reality, or are just trolling me.She showed those for the sake of highlighting that:* The females were always weak and pathetic, only crying for help, whereas male characters were always able to handle the same kidnapper (and not with some slight increase in muscular strength, with their whacky abilities).* Males essentially never have this happen to them, females reccuringly do.* They are repeatedly shown as objects, being only acted upon by men, rather than acting themselves.* Females frequently and uniquely show up dressed as a sexual object, whereas the males don't, a 'sex prize' if they're rescued.

Because it presumably doesn't teach anything?

It presumably teaches that male lives are worthless.