The PC community had a lot to cheer about when news broke that popular console fantasy romp, Dark Souls, would be headed their way. Things have turned a little darker in the past 24 hours though, with Namco Bandai announcing at a press conference overnight that the game would support Games For Windows Live - something said community is not happy about.
"GFWL is unpopular, difficult to use, inconvenient, has terrible online support (a key feature in Dark Souls), and is downright unpleasant,"
reads a statement on a petition to have the GFWL support removed from the product on Change.org. "After anxiously awaiting a PC release for this fantastic game it feels like a real slap in the face hearing Dark Souls will use Games for Windows Live.
"We recommend Valve's Steamworks in place, as this DRM is much easier to use, less intrusive, more reliable, and more accepted among PC gamers," the statement continues. "Please reconsider the use of GFWL, or offer the game on both services. Thank you for taking the effort to port this game, but for a lot of customers it's Steam or no sale."
At the time of writing, the petition signature count is sitting at 13,925. Drop us a line in the Comments section if you plan on signing too.
Click here for the AusGamers Dark Souls review to see what all the fuss is about.
Posted 07:44am 13/4/12
"Steam or no sale" just makes them sound like whiners.
Posted 07:56am 13/4/12
Hate having to authenticate a billion times just to get into a game.
Posted 07:56am 13/4/12
Posted 08:32am 13/4/12
Posted 08:39am 13/4/12
Posted 10:06am 13/4/12
Posted 10:52am 13/4/12
GFWL is redundant and that is why it sucks - whatever usability issues some people have aside.
Posted 11:16am 13/4/12
Posted 12:52pm 13/4/12
I never had problems i finished Fable 3 and GTA4 plus it's expansion...
Then the other day i wanted to show Fable 3 to my GF and it needed an update. So i tried to let it update because it wouldn't give me another option. It didn't update and didn't error. I couldn't do anything. I quit and an installer in the background said "couldn't continue as it was in use". I was stuck in some kind of dumbass cycle where the game clearly wouldn't quit itself so that GFWL could update and the launcher wouldn't wait for me to do it manually. I moved on and we played something else instead (peggle. we played peggle. it wasn't the best moment).
Anyway it's a POS and i haven't tried it since.
Edit: Why don't they have GFWL literally as an xbox style console on the PC. Much like Windows Media centre opens up have GFWL open up with an xbox like interface. That way it'd be synonymous with it's existing platform and a media pc would totally be worth having as a windows box.
Posted 01:02pm 13/4/12
I've had a few games that were GFWL and either straight up didn't work or died during patching so I couldn't play online after the first few weeks of the title launch (*cough* section 8 : prejudice *cough*).
On the other hand, had nothing but good things from steam, excepting the occasional server busy issue on the launch day of a big game or a sale.
Posted 04:57pm 13/4/12
Posted 05:21pm 13/4/12
What little I've used of games with GFWL is enough to make me hate it. I've only got 1 game with it in and that's enough for me.
At first it wouldn't connect because the installer that came with the game was out of date, and it wouldn't auto update either for whatever reason. I had to manually delete it and install it again after downloading it straight from MS.
Then if you go to play the game and your internet is down, forget about saving your progress because, yep! you guessed it, you can't save (in this particular game) unless you're connected to the GFWL service.
At least with steam is has offline sync things where it syncs with "the cloud" the next time it's connected.
in short: F*** GFWL.
Or just integrate it into media center, or that stupid metro (sexual) interface windows 8 has.
Posted 07:22pm 13/4/12
People whinge about it, but it isn't really anything like Steam which is highly developed towards selling games.
I think GFWL is just a place for Microsoft to stick achievements etc, not really a marketplace.
Posted 08:00pm 13/4/12
Posted 08:08pm 13/4/12