Proving they're not to be outclassed in the CG video department, Blizzard have released the
intro movie from the forthcoming World of Warcraft expansion Wrath of the Lich King - perhaps a timely response to their competitors
impressive trailer yesterday.
World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King is due on PC November 3rd, 2008.
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Oh and btw, how are ya term it's been a while since I have spoken to you?
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Posted 12:32pm 22/8/08
WAR - "Ok cool, goblins and ice mages and burning and castles, looks epic"
WOW - "F*** yeah, arthas and northrend with dragons, do want"
Posted 12:38pm 22/8/08
Just remember that the Warhammer lore is just over 20years old, etc. Also remember the opening trailer for WoW when it first came out was something similar - A NE running through a forest, a dwarf and a bear and an angry orc.
Posted 12:51pm 22/8/08
Games workshop has literally published thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of articles, papers, journals, novels, source books and rule books on the world they created over the last 25 years. Hell, they have dedicated magazine(s) dedicated to exploring, visualising, and creating lore.
After this expansion they have practically no lore to utilise they'll have to invent new lore. Considering that the essence of their game world is heavily based on Warhammer and every time they try and invent their own they do a "lasers pew pew pew" job of it I'm surprised that anybody could think that Blizzard can out lore GW/Mythic.
Don't get me wrong, Blizzard have created some awesome story lines in the past, but you can't deny that GW haven't been doing the same, for much longer.
Posted 01:18pm 22/8/08
Wow, is in some respects the opposite, while we don't have an affinity for the idea of a world we do for the charactors and a set of specific events that unfold, or something
I dunno, thats how I feel about it anyhow.
Posted 01:22pm 22/8/08
As a side note - new WoTLK beta push went out today & with it a metric s***tonne of warrior love. MMO-Champion has all of it up for display along with the updated Talent calculators if you're so inclined to have a play with new builds...
Now if only I could get a beta invite to have a play with it all :(
ps. hi term!
Posted 01:55pm 22/8/08
I've avoided even trying to get on the beta for this one, for wow me n jim were playing it for over half a year before it was released, having to grind upto 60 again sucked. Then in TBC I did exactly the same thing, leveled my mage to 70 then when the game was released I couldnt be arsed so everyone I knew was playing end content and sick of it by the time I could be bothered to ding 70:(
Dunno what I'm going to do yet, maybe level the dk but stuffed if I'm going to do it in beta, which I would if I had access...
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See original WoW trailer and TBC trailer for the combat bits. This time, its all about Arthas, hes who people are coming to see, hes the motherf***** to end all motherf*****s.
Posted 02:22pm 22/8/08
You've got ADD, yeah?
Posted 02:36pm 22/8/08
At least until the next expansion maybe :P
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I know there must be more behind the war one, but I haven't spent hours bent over a table studying game rules or the warhammer universe because it just doesn't appeal to me at all. I'm not demeaning warhammer, I can definately see how it would be cool, and having known a few people who've played it, but judging by the average mmo player who make up a large part of the player base these games are trying to attract (ie, wow players or prospective wow players or people who at least know about wow), there's a higher chance that they'd at least know a tiny bit about warcraft as opposed to warhammer.
I've played all the different versions of the warcraft rts, and I can actually see where that video is heading towards. Obviously I'm a little biased having played (and still log on every zg reset to 2 man thekal cuz I want my tiger damnit) they both are great cinematics and I definately will be checking war out.
Speaking in exaggerated terms, it's like if they made a counter-strike/quake/whateverpopularfps mmo as opposed to a magic the gathering/more obscure lore filled game from a different gaming genre/whatever mmo. If they made cinematics, the CS one would appeal, even though appeal may not be the right word, maybe something along the lines of "more-known-by-and-probably-will-play-it" to a lot more people based around a fancy cgi short (they seem to be a dime a dozen these days).
Posted 03:40pm 22/8/08
The demons have invaded Azeroth after one summoned by (reuse some character) broke loose. The old world as you know it is gone. (leveling 1-60 is gone too, new characters start at 55 or 60 in the new land/wotlk/outlands). The world is already created! rescale everything for 80-90 add 2 new hero classes. New quests through out Azeroth ... Heroic Wailing caverns!
Lets new people join without doing content no one is using.
Lets old people relive the original content.
Yet what of pandaren!
Posted 03:57pm 22/8/08
No way, the Warhammer cinematic was just another generic fantasy battle scene, nothing new or interesting. Seeing the new WoW intro actually had me really interested the whole way through.
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I have never read a more nerdier thread in my entire life, this is bulls*** and embarrassing
Posted 05:58pm 22/8/08
They still have the emerald dream to do. That has been mentioned many times in warcraft 3, TFT and wow but nothing about it yet. THEN after that they should be made to create new lore.
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Funny you mention The Emerald Dream actually. It much like Outland, were both originally in vanilla WoW, but were removed prior to launch because Blizz felt both deserved better. If you've ever played around with WoW model/map viewers, you can actually find the original Outland (well, what became Hellfire peninsula anyway) map & an Emerald Dream map.
All raid content ends up being farmable eventually. Except for Kel'Thuzad anyway, but that's because Naxx came way too close to the release of TBC and hardly any of the big guilds had downed him before it all became a moot point. Hence why Naxx has been relocated to Northrend as an entry-level lvl80 raid instance :)
As for Frostmourne being wielded by every Legolololas huntard, I doubt it very much.. It'll be a legendary drop - I mean you don't exactly see Illidan's Warglaives around that often, so I'm sure it'll be getting special treatment. In fact, I wouldn't be suprised if they decide to adhere to Warcraft Lore and make Frostmourne a quest item drop instead - I mean, it's a cursed sword so in theory whoever picks it up is going to end up as Arthas #2. The only solution would be making it a Death Knight only drop, but then you'll piss off all the Warriors & Paladins who could use it.
:shrug: nfi really. I'm just happy that Icecrown (like all the Northrend raids) will have a 10 man version so I actually get to run them :)
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It'll get significantly more usage this way, rather than being left as a legacy raid in Azeroth that people run when bored/drunk.
Posted 10:46pm 22/8/08
The Emerald Dream is the next expansion pack; or The Emerald Nightmare, what ever it is going to be called. After that my guess is they will start gearing up for the sequel to WoW. Don't ask me for a source but I'm sure I read in an interview not long before TBC was released, that they were only planning on three expansions before a new game.
As for going up against someone bigger and badder than Arthus the Lich King.
My guess it the final battle in The Emerald Dream will be a corrupted Ysera, the green dragon aspect. As for what could corrupt a dragon aspect... My next guess is an old god, and not a weakened half sealed up old god like C'thun.
Posted 11:03pm 22/8/08
I think the point that many are making though term is that with the sheer weight of lore that warhammer has to offer, there is as much detail in their "general idea" to flesh out a specific set of characters and narrative. If i was a WFB fan rather than a W40K fan i'm absolutely certain i could wander to my room and come back with a short story about any of the Order rulers and some of the other special characters plus describe individual historical campaigns to much the same depth and detail as warcraft. (note that the orcs and chaos get a somewhat short end of a stick here in that i believe their faction leaders are Mythic productions rather than GW. The nature of being a disposable "bad guy" really)
About the only real difference being they haven't been shown to us in technicolor 3d.
Posted 09:25am 23/8/08
Sargeras.
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Then as mentioned there's Sargeras, not to mention Neltharion.
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